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NOMINATED LOCAL CHURCH COMMITTEE MEMBERS
Chiarman : Mr. T. Zamlunmang Zou
Vice Chairman : Mt. Ginsanglien Samte
Secretary : Mr. T. Paulienthang
Joint Secretary : Mr. Bruce K. Thangkhal
Finance cum Treasurer : Mr. T. Khuplianlam
Executive Members
Mr. M. Lienlnlun
Mr. Hauzalien
Ex-Officio Member
Pastor T. Kamsuonlal
Wing Wind Co-ordinator:
Mr. Ricard Suonminthang
Miss Pricila Hoipi
Women Wing Leader:
Miss Lhingzahat
Miss Naomi Haumuonching
Chiarman : Mr. T. Zamlunmang Zou
Vice Chairman : Mt. Ginsanglien Samte
Secretary : Mr. T. Paulienthang
Joint Secretary : Mr. Bruce K. Thangkhal
Finance cum Treasurer : Mr. T. Khuplianlam
Executive Members
Mr. M. Lienlnlun
Mr. Hauzalien
Ex-Officio Member
Pastor T. Kamsuonlal
Wing Wind Co-ordinator:
Mr. Ricard Suonminthang
Miss Pricila Hoipi
Women Wing Leader:
Miss Lhingzahat
Miss Naomi Haumuonching
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ReplyDeleteIt shows how orthodox we are in religious matters.
ReplyDeleteWe do not like to speak anything good for our society when our society is decaying or is in great trouble, we pretend not to know like an ostrich hiding one's head inside the sandy soil. We donot want to be peace makers we are silent spectators, how can we move ahead.
It is true when one group is angry another is happy
When one group is gaining other group is losing
When one group is establishing other is tumbling
When one group is pensive other is jolly
When one group is contributing good things other is distributing bad things
Everything has time and season as the Bible says.
May the Lord's will be done. Thy will be done.
I the wills of some religion Leaders cannot be taken as the will of God.God gave us the responsility to take care of our own destiny.
ReplyDeleteThis is the first fruit of a person who think he is the only wise man of the Zou community. What will happen next? Wait and watch, you will soon see more...
ReplyDeleteRev. Ginkhanmung appears to have understood that God's will shall be promoted by establishing a Church every where possible even if it may destroy the bonds of unity and brotherhood of a community.
ReplyDeleteIf Ginkhanmung think that he represent the will's of God for the Zou future in this world, im ready to take him to whatever circumstances/ situations he wanna take me?.I am christian and Presbyterian by denomination but i dont believe in the Bible if its gonna bring disunity to my family.As far as i know , God is love and love never bring fight.So Mr, Gin khan mung if you think you are holy man by going to some Theology college, i have 7 certificates which doesnt makes me more evils than you.No human beings become holy by institutions sanctity but only by making peace by actions.If you have any doubt my philosophy of life and my beloved Zou brothers you can reach me at Lianphiamphu@ymail.com.
ReplyDeleteKhaiginlian phiamphu
Senior resaerch
City of edmonton
canada.
Heads-up- if you are afraid to put your names in your comment you are a gay my Zous brothers.
Dear Anonymous commentators, please do write your name or whatsoever to identify yourself in the future, so that people will know who you are and how to response your comments.
ReplyDeleteDear Anonymous
ReplyDeleteI am very sadden how you guys responds, do i have peoples with my thoughts and ideas?
Thanks
kgl
Let me tell you something about the establishment of Lutheran in Delhi.
ReplyDeleteTo be frank, I have always wanted our parent churches to be established in every cities wherever we are. I have this feeling from the experience which I faced in Shillong when Presbytarian was established way back in 1999 or 2000.
Last year, The Lutheran leaders came to Delhi to study the feasibility of eastablishing their Church. By that time, I told them that I am with their purpose but to dealay for atleast 3/4 years in view of Delhi Zou Society stituations. They delaid fro one full year but could no longer waite for another 2/3 years and they came with their Assembly resolutions.
Eventhen, I tried my best to delaid for another 2/3 years but in vain.
This is the short story!
Our fanaticism for our own church or denominations should not be interpreted as love of our Zou society. In life's contest, there are losers and winners, all cannot be winners, some have to be losers. When one does not see one's own dust inside own eyes, why should one pinpoint the others(E.G Shillong Presbyterian Church founding is a good example).
ReplyDeleteMy identity is decided by the Select Profile i am unable to disclose my identity due to this problem. But my identity is not important my views are more important man!
I have not seen this kind of fanatic writings by Kgl Phiamphu in my life. Perhaps, he is very fanatic Zou or fanatic religious bigot.
One should never poke one's nose inside somebody's room. Stick to your profession or duty God will take care of the rest. If Kgl is a religious leader, he may have the right to question his fellow religious leader.
Religion has not link with tribalism or clanism in whatsoever ways.
Let us mind our own business if we want our Zou society to improve. Amen.
Bangten gen ngongtah lei zong Innlam a i umna hattuom hing phut ding hi uleh pha iasahpina hun chieng khat pen um thou sam ven. Pha salou chi nuom vevaw ten zong soft corner them khat be i nei uh ka gingta hi.
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ReplyDeleteDear Brothers in Peace,
These message is in response to my comment in Zolengthe.
Freedom of speech allowed me to comments on any circumstances which affect/effect my community because i belong to that community( so, there is no point of telling me to mind my own business by anonymous)My business is unity and peace for my community not breaking-up.
The establishment of Presbyterian Church in shillong should not be the base/lame excuse to do so in Delhi.Shillong experience should be the reasons not to repeat again in our future . I do strongly opposed and still oppose the existence of ZPC in shillong from the beginning, but one person cry is like a pee in the desert.Thats why, i never attend ZPC service not even once in my lifetime and intended to do so as long as i live. Forget about becoming a Chairman or a member in such circumstances.
Why am i Presbyterian?
I was a Presbyterian before i wake-up because my parent's were Presbyterian.
Why i go to Presbyterian Church on sunday?
The village's i live in (Zomun) has only one Church and their is no choice?
Anonymous wanted to know whether i am religious bigot or Zou bigot/fanatic?and told me to mind my own Profession?
I am Zou fanatic by birth and will be so.... !Religions is not a profession Mr, anonymous, no doubt why all these troubles begin......because some guys took God service as a Profession.
I do believe in Christianity but not necessarily in Churchs/Organisations.I seen the missionaries from England/Scotland 100 years ago as a fore-runners of the British empire rather than Preaching love and peace that we belive in Jesus Christ.Thats why the Missionaries was followed by arms and guns within a short period. England Churches was responsible for introducing slavery in this world, thats why the Church of England had to apologise publicly to the Black communities in particular last year.
Many Churches in Wales has to be close down because of lack of congregation. Why? because people dont believe in Churches and Organisation anymore.Why? because it bring confusion, hatred,war, voilence,corruption, sex-scandal,child molestation, slavery,discrimination et etc.
Most of the people in North-America were the victims of religious persecution at one point of time in history.Generation to come will not forget what their fore-father went through in history.Many parents in North-America dont teach the Bible to their children anymore.Many of them have no religion affilation anymore but i find them one of the most peaceful and generous people i ever met.
I met many internationally known person in canada.To mention few, person like Stephen Lewis(former UN aids ambasador to africa), Lieutenant Governor of Nova Scotia Mayann E.Francis,Dr, Proff Donald,Order of canada(perkinsion disease) Farley Mowat,international writer etc etc. These are the few people i had a conversation at dinner table who donate millions of dollars in India,Nepal, Africa to fight poverty,aids etc but had no religion affilation nor believe in Churches.But, i find all of them very peaceful and kind person i ever met.
Personally, i dont see the needs of churches/religions organisation anymore in our soceity before we filled our empty stomach. The Zou's community doent need ZPC ,Lutheren or whatever in every cities in india to confirm our existence in this world? It only bring division and hatred among us. While the zou people division brings food to someone table and they love it.
If the young generation of the Zou's doesnt understand whats good for them and whats not,then how do we gonna escape from ignorance? If we,the generation from the age of infomation technology cannot stop/overwhelm the brain/ideas of our parents who graduated from LP govt.school in the 60s, then what can i say? whats left to say?Who shall we blame brothers?????
I want to end these religion divisions among us, so that person like my brother ( Khup sian lal) should not be killed and then be hung in a public place like a pig where no one is responsible? You cannot do the same to one Paites or Nagas in manipur, can you? Why? Because they stand behind each other.
So, do we need more Church divisions among us or unity among us to survive in this world??
I respect everyone equally but sorry to the people who is a contributor of division in our soceity.I have no respect for them.
Think twice my brothers! Why not dream of coming togethre in ONE denomination?
Hope my message is straight and clear to everyone of us.
genkhial genval...ngaidam.
Khai gin lian
canada
K.SUANTAH Says.......
ReplyDeleteKalaizom teng,
Tamna Unaupa Zamkholian Vision geldoh tha kie vai. I khang son dingte khualna in Nang leh Ken, isep thei kham kham itna toh sem vai.
Thou un, thou un kalaizomte,
Tung suuni jong vanlai geijouta,
Tuunnu zolei naubang a kap,
Kavontoite dougal kisie chi'n.
I louma kibang nam leh chikhat hi, Zo ihi,
I kal a laidan I lei Hattuom
Lung piching in la selung gelsiem in
Semkhomvai I Nam leh Krista manggam ding.
Laisiengthou mite ki itna,
Ei a dinga dougal kisiet na,
Lungmol ken ka ngai siem lou,
Sun leh jan naubang ka kana hi
Pan khom hi aw hatta ahi
Sisan in jong chin-leh-tuai ihi
Ziinmang douding lungkhat pua in
I louma ah guntu in semvai
Dear Lalpy Zou,
ReplyDeleteI appreciate your views even though I do not know you. I am not sure if you know me. I have been saying the same thing all the time, but sometimes it appears that some people either misunderstood my views or deliberately misinterpret my words in order to serve their own selfish interest. I understand God commands human beings to love each other as much as one love his or her self. Surely God will not be happy with the so called Church Leaders who act like a thief and hastily establish a new Church without any consultation and consensus with the affected members of the society to promote vested interest even though they may be decorated with very highly respectable titles such as Rev., Bishop, Pastors etc.
I feel it is high time that all the young scholars and all the right thinking persons from amongst the Zou community should stand together and express their views freely and frankly without any fear or favour, led or hindrance and contribute their knowledge and talent for the promition of unity and fraternity amongst the entire Zou community (and not for the promotion of sectarian interest on the basis of clan, religion or place of brith etc.) as is being done in the instant case in Delhi.
I can only say it is very unfortunate when the Kuki Chiefs and Aimol Chiefs sit together and resolved to try and promote unity amongst themselves, our Zou Church Leaders appears to be too keen to divide us on every possible lines only to promote sectarian interest, personal benefits and short term gains etc. instead of trying to promote love and unity among the entire Zou community. No matter whoever may say or do what they want, I am confident as always that we shall not waver in defending the truth for the promotion of unity amongst the entire Zou community, now and forever.
My best wishes,
Khakhai Zou.
Dear unaute,
ReplyDeleteDelhi a Lutheran pawlpi kiphutdi chi aki genna kalkhat jong pha nailou a phu hijou ngal ta hi. Nikhat SMS(Zolengthe/Zopatong) khata akigel dan in biehna phu di pen Democracy ahijieh in a ut ut in a phu thei ahi chi hinanleh jong ka ngaidan in biehna phu diing pen a Lutheran member pite aki dot lou leh 'Autocracy' ahi. So, whose autocratic rule is it anyway. It's crystal clear but who is bothered and this is just clan chauvinism. Its very sad for the younger generation to be misled by the dirtiest politics of religion and this wound will take time to heal. and who knows it might never heal but rather infect others. Today, so called Lutherans' may be happy that they are the pioneer to set up a church in Delhi but how many of them think about the impact on our society. Enough of denominational politics in our Zou society.
Sian
Lawmte,
ReplyDeleteJadahna'n nala sih unlen sil umdan ngaisut theina ahikhaleh chia kahing gen ahizaw hi. Ki mudana ahiei, ki huot man ahiei a ka hing gel hi lou in sil i thei siem theina ding ua ka hing gel ahi zaw hi. Na lunglou lam uh ahikha leh NGAIDAM KAHING NGEN AHI!
Tunia ii. iih, aa aah sa teng koima dang hilou Presbytarian mi leh sa ngen ihi uhi. Lutheran pawlpi a na kibuol mi-le-sa khat zong audoh lou hi. I lungsim liensah vai, zau deu in sil ngaisun vai chin haw vapum nanlei i lungsim ah sil khatchiet i nei kiiukieu veve ding uh ka gingta hi.
Shillong a Presbytarian kiphu zieh in Zou Sangnaupang Pawlpi lah ah ki tuol delna leh a gam a lei a ki suina apiengsah hi. A gam neite zang a naupang pawl tha-le-mat ding a sui sah leh ui del a del in a um hi.
Tunia tabang a aute, bang dinga tua hunlai a ana au lou na hi uai? chi nuom pien kahi. Tua hunlai in zong tuothu toh kisai tampivei i Workshop ah gen in a um hi. Hinanleh Koima i audoh sih uhi. Tunia Lutheran ang kiphu leh bang a i mu ua, ta bang a thu i gen thei uh adiei? Hattuom a kimu dahna pen na lungsim uah vei den in dim let chi kimu thei kasa lel hi.
Moderator pu'n Lutheran kiphu zieh leh Hattuom um zieh a "ZOD leh ZYO pen a mangthang diing ahita hi" achipen mu tom kasa mama hi. Tuote toh Hattuom kisai khahna bangma umin ka thei sih hi. Hattuom pen Hattuom, ZYO i chipen bang hattuom ah kikhawm lechin zong ang kankhawm tu hi zing ding ahi. Delhi ah them khat abuoikha chithu hiven, mailam a sil hing hoi jel na ding ahi.
Zamlunmang as a humble member of our Workshop
Pu,Zolengthe
ReplyDeleteShillong buaina leh zpc pen kei 1998 tan kana om a, Presbyterian v/s Lutheren ama? Shillong buaina pen tuhun bang a internet a ki jangnai sih hi. Pa,Neh sei tapa Lalboi xmass a angpei a ang gen leh kana jah ahinabou hi. Pa,chinzakhup lemna palai in kuan chi kaza a,Pa,Chinzakhup Presbyterian amah???????Nang hilh chet ngaiva?Kachi gige bang in Zou kahi jiah a kangki golhkhak ahi,Presyterian leh Lutherene Muatbei nanleh kamittui tahkhat jong potsih va.Shillong 2004 in kava phakia a, Tv. Khen mung leh a lawite peace campaign in innchin ah angvah uh hi,hoikasa mama hi. Tamna comment bawl teng a denomination uh kathei sih hi. NANG jong Lutheren nahilam kang theisih hi,Delhi Lutheren Church Chairman a Namin nagman tamna i ZOLENGTHE a nangtuansah chaing a Lutheren nahi lang kang theipan ahibou hi.Tam comment peteng Presbyterian a accuse nabawl pen lungsim neuvai kasa hi.Tamna ka omna Canada ah Church thum ah kakai thei jel hi.No.1,Jehova witnesses(full gospel 2006 in Nova Scotia.No,2.Strathcona Lutheren Church 2007 .No,3. Church of jesus Christ 2008 in Alberta. 2009 a theinailou. So, you are wrong in accusing me of Presbyterian Fanatic because i am not. Nang lungsim neuman a leitung mihing ngaidan generalisation na bawlpen ,nangma lang akisam khat om hijo va e.Ki ngaituahtha ding in hoisang.
Genvala om le ngaisiam
Khaiginlian.
You will forgive me if I asked are you, Can you 100% confidently say, I will go to Heaven if A Lightning strikes you at this moment ??!! How many can say Yes ??!
ReplyDeleteI read thro' a couple of the messages that have been posted in this Workshop, well to be very frank I completely failed to see, why the issue should even be discussed with such passion and commitment as if the whole issue is SALVATION or REDEMPTION itself.
Maybe we could change the topic to “Religious Dogmas & Hypocrisy” or “ Whether or not Lutheran's expansion is Ideal to Delhi Zou Society” ? Or Even what's wrong with Lutheran (MELC). Let's take a closer look at all the different denominations that we have around us, amongst us. It's just a matter of time before it happens. Religions zealots ??! Well I feel it might be just possible that we have been entangled and consumed ourselves in political arguments that no longer applies in this day and time for so long that we completely failed to understand or accept the fact that these so called religious fanatics and zealots might have a very simple, transparent, clean, honest, well intended and ascetic plans and ambitions. I think, there's a NEED (mind you, not want) to see things in a bit more liberal, practical and optimistic way. Why don't we take religion as religion and politics as politics. Black is black and white is white. Let's try removing the Grey matter that emanates when we mixed black and white colors. Perhaps on our ways from Burma/ China to India, could it be possible that our ancestors have brought along with them the Communist or Autocratic Ideologist so prevalent in those countries to this secular country, India. May their souls rest in peace. Lets be prudent and have the sense not to turned the whole issue into a Bollywood Masala Movie.
Bangteng hileh sialsi nunga sialdai kai toh kibang sim giap lei kilom ? As far as I'm concern, I think we are aggravating the situation. What we're now discussing is not a remedy, but a process of degradation in the Society. We talk about it like some hideous crime have been committed. If someone has committed a crime, let's go to the Police and file an FIR. Let's try opening up a little bit, broaden our horizons and perspectives and try to see what's happening around the world. Let's be a little bit tolerant, forgiving and let's not be sarcastic about everything and anything that crosses our malnourished dysfunctional thoughts.
One thought crosses my mind, though radical, maverick and far fetch I feel is worth exploring. If we had been at the times of Jesus Christ and his apostles, what would our stand be ??!!
I believe we all believe in the Missionaries who are working amongst non-believers (Hindus), would we be responsible for the break up of Hindu Dalit communities,etc. I know, it all seems like an absurd comparision to make.
My point is that a Coin has two sides and whichever angle you look at it, its still a Coin and the crux of our religions ideology is to worship God. I don't believe the name of the church or the building would redeem me from all my sins.
If I may, I did like to look the above said issue in a little different perspective. “a b.............P Q R..............w x y z” – Alphabetical order of the English Alphabet. Maybe we are thinking differently or maybe we are talking about things in a slightly different perspective. Wait a minute, in fact maybe we are talking about completely different topics in some parallel universe.
“I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A REASON WHY THERE'S “Q” IN BETWEEN P AND R”.
Point Illustration:-
P= Politics
Q=........................
R=Religion.
I would like to request you all kind readers to kindly filled up the blank and let's see which English word fits the description best??!!!!
Personally, I believe we will have to stand in a very long long “Q” QUEUE, before we enter Paradise if we have to put P=R or even put P next to R. As a matter of fact, I don't see the queue ending ever!!!!.
Maybe we are the Religions zealots ?!! Lets take a look back at history's most revered philosophers, since we all look like one.
Koiten Bangen uh!!!
1. Al Gore (Former VP of USA) quotes Mahatma “Become the Change you want to see in the World”.
2. Socrates “Know thyself, It is the beginning of wisdom.”
Genkhiel, genval aum leh ngaidam.
God speed to all and Thank you for your time!!!
qoob Tungnung
Dear Lawm leh guol,
ReplyDelete"..I have always wanted our parent churches to be estd. in ...... the experience ...........in shillong when Presbyterian was estd....." said Zoulun77.
Great, very great...you did well Zoulun. Hinanleh Delhi a um Zou namipi sapite hem/khem nahilam tah natahlat khah jieh in lungdam huoi, lungdam huoi kia sawnsawn...
Kum peisa lam apat Lutheran Lamkaiten Delhi a Pawlpi ang phusawm lai un Delhi a Zou mipite kung ah na ngaidan/ a um jie/ bang dia angphusawm uh/chite beh hoitah in nakum kha lechin maw!!!(why skip for so long and try to pretent who you are now)??? "Delhi ah Pawlpi kiphut..." chi thu tam workshop tungtawn in
topic khat nang pan kha nalai set hi(tukum pul lam in, kathei khiel lou leh), You always wanted NOT OUR PARENT CHURCHES,BUT YOUR PARENT CHURCH to be estd. here in Delhi as a sort of reverance. Shillong a Presbyterian Pawlpi kiphu napan sie gige jieh jong reverance na lah nuom jieh uh hididan ahi.Shillong a Presbyterian kiphu in Zou mipi Shillong a umte tung ah bang teng a tun ei, ki itna maw/kituona maw???(gensau nawnsih vai) ahoilou dan i theichiet jieh uo
India sung state dangte beh ah tambang um nawn da leh chi mipi ngaisutna ahi hi. But you wanted it to happen even before you came to Delhi,it seems!!!To be frank, be a man, being a man.just follow your heart but not the heart of others.
my dear friend.
Tambang sil Delhi guoh hilou in India state tuomtuom ah jong tung thei ahiman in tam workshop tungtawn in bangchi pan lah ding, bang chi dal ding,bang strategy ngai,.....etc chi te gen khawm in kikum khawm ta ulei uthuoi vatun kasa hi,tuoleh tam Delhi mun ngei ah jong Zou Pawlpi dang ang kiphu thei nawnlou nang in bang panmun i siel thei ei chi te, kikum va ui e guoi, Pu Modirator nang nang pan diei???
Tam Delhi ah Lungkimlou jieh, thangpai tinten jieh, mi khat leh ni toh kituo lou jieh, phuba lah nuom kisah jieh a Hattuom(oh sorry)Pawlpi kiphut pen aga nekha te diin vang hum thou va chi ing.
Lungdam
Munga.
Dear ModeratorPu leh Ka Sangam ka laizom teng,
ReplyDeleteKhovel ningli apan Delhi khopi ah Lutheren Hattuom hing kiphudoh nahing puahnat pi ua, kipah ung. Kou Delhite pen.. Noute mabang in kenjong ka pona mama hi. Tuin pen MELC-Hattuom Delhi ah a umta hi. Bangjieh a Hattuom ahi uai chi koiman ithei naisih uhi. Bolding leh sepding khat um a Hattuom hi maithei ahi. Lutheren Hattuam against ka hi votsih hi, Bangjieh a Delhi a Hattuom sese, Office khatbeh hon masah theilou amah, for a humble beginning, chi ut kahijo hi. Miten jong Office lien pipi, Hospital, Hall tanpha nei ua, hinanleh munkhat a ki fellowship thei uhi. Tua I Fellowship uh ZCF pen Lutheren/ Presbyterian /Baptist etc etc. pumkhat in kium khom theia, Pasien kiphatkhom thei hi, bangjieh a Hattuom sese ?. Vangam a Cabin tuom (nou /kou ) chi umlou hi. Leitung a I-mi i-sa toh I umkhom theilou leh Vangam ah Chi-Chin Namchin tangbang kimna mun a I umjou nadiei maw? Ki ngaituo vai. Tami ahi, I KAAL A LAAIDAN I LEI HATTUOM chie I lasah jing uh. Lungmol kenjong ngaisiem theising. Tahsa thu a ngaidan kibahlou hun um naven, kiselni jong um naven. Hattuom leh Biehna/Ginna thu ah I Parent Churchs te leh ZCF te bieh dan kilamdang na um nailouphot ahi.
Tuma sotlou laiin I hattuom lamkaiten (Lutheren/Presbyterian) Delhi khopi ah Zouta te bangjat um, nuamsa moh, genthei moh; koiman hing theikha lou hi. Ahin, tomngai kisuo in I Hattuom lamkaite uh, koipou khentuam neilou in Delhi hingtuan taphot na kihoupi in kou Delhi Zoutate, Student 000, Private a sem 000, In bul 000, tahsa leh Hagau noute thumpina leh encouragement kapoimo jing uh chiin na kichiel jeljel in na kivaidawn jel hi. Nou/Kou chi umlou a ZCF, Delhi a I ki fellowship khom theidante uh kigenpi jel in Inlang bang a adiehina Khanglaite naki Fellowship thei khom jel uleh kichi hi. Sharing bang hingnei ding in naki chiel jel a. I Fellowship bang ahing ve chiengun nuam kisa tuam mama hi.
In returned, we get DELC. Thanks my Bro if you think, this is worth for us, if you think this is our immediate need for our unity and Spiritual growth, in particular, in Delhi. Lemna kagaldot jing laiun, tami mo nahing piehthei sun. This is too harsh to digest.
I Gam a kilaidanna tunitan suhbei hinaisih nanleh, Khangtha ten panla in tunichieng in sepkhom leh dingkhom a poimodan I thei panta uhi. I gam a semkhom ding leh pangkhom ding a, na siemna na pilna a kipoimo lai in, I kal a laaidan ding in khopi umteng a ... chisim nalai. Shillong incident maimai jong ki genmang nailou, gen mangmo ding khat hing um kiata. Shillong incident koiman, a Presbyterian ten jong dihtanlou hi(except some orthodox). Tuabangma in DELC jong, koiman hoisa tuanlou ding ahi(except very few orthodox). Ei khangtha ten nang a Presbyterian, Nang a Lutheren, Nang a Baptist etc.. chite topsan ta lei, I khangson te tuibang ahing luangkhom thei panding uhi. Tuni nakam a apot a na umdan a kilaidanna nalatsah nalai paupau leh, na khangsonten hing ngaidam nonlou maithei ahi. Delhi a pen a pressure hat mama ahi manin Khopihui lang in hing lang maiin Zaankal khat a mite lungsim kiheng maidan ahi.
Tuni, tami thu leh Fellowship tung tang ah, kei mimol ngaidan tamlou hing kum nalai vang; DELC Hattuom umpen ZCF sung bangma sukha ding in kagingta sih hi. ZCF pen tukum thupi ˜ Year of Prosperity chi thupi a kijah dungjui in Pasien in thupi tah in tambang solna tung a thupitah in gualjohna hing peding hi. I thei kham kham in lung kelou in thumjing pou lei. ZCF pen koimatuam a ahisih, eima mama ahia, akep leh ajuun I mohpuahna un kathei hi. Tua thamlouin, maban a eiten (Pu Zo suante) hing khaikhom tu leh hing puidihtu ding hinalai ahi. Tunitan ZCF, Delhi vaihom nate a jong kituom bolna umlou hi. Ei.. Ei . Zomi te, Pu Zo suante, Pasien Nam telte, Pasien Laptoute, Leivui apan hing lamtou, Delhi khopi tan hing lamtou, Leitung ningli tan dong a hing guoljol, I poimo chinteng, I lunggul chinteng hiingpie I bieh Pasien phatkhom nuam kisa hi. Tunin ei Khangthate lungpiching khual in I gam-leh-Inam a ding in semkhawm tavai.
THOU UN THOU UN KALAIZOM TE TUNG SUUNI VANLAI GEI JOUTA E
Ahithei leh DELC, tuni jong ki withdraw thei nalai leh ut huai kei, Shillong te jong Zou Innkuon or Fellowship khat ah kigom thei kia uleh deisah huai hi, awle a tamseng ta di uai?
Dear Zou Laiguizoms,
ReplyDeleteI am so glad to know our concern and passion for the body of Christ. Indeed, that̢۪s what we ought to do for we are the body of Christ. I thank the Almighty God who loves the Zou tribe in spite of our weakness and sins against Him.
It is high time to know the difference between church and social organization. We as a church are part of the body of Christ and we are still one. Different names of churches should not change our attitude towards our brothers. We are still the same (if we are true believers), just called in different names. Our involvement in ZSP, UZO should not make a difference though we go to different places to worship God. If we all know what Christianity really is and who are we as a community, we will be alright.
There is nothing we can do much for the well being of the community until every individual think and love others as Jesus would do. In fact, more divisions are on our ways if we do not change our heart towards God. Remember, wherever we are, or wherever we go to worship our God, keep in mind that true Christian worship is Word-communicating, God-glorifying, and Christ-confessing. Worship should always be Christ centered rather than seeking fame and popularity or personal gain. What matter to God is not the name of the churches we go to and the place where we are, but it̢۪s the heart within you that matters to God. One day we will stand before God for what we do in this world and we will meet Him face to face. Be prepared to meet Jesus, and never do anything if you do not want to face Jesus with it. We can hide many things now, but God will reveal our secrets one day and he will reward us accordingly. If we do badly, we will receive bad rewards, and if we do well, we will receive well. I want to encourage all my Zou brothers̢۪ to guard your self. Don̢۪t bother what people do with their life, but live the best you can for Jesus. You are not responsible for what people do, but you are for your action.
Church is different than our social organization like ZSP, UZO, ZYO, ZOD, etc. Though you can do whatever you like with our social organization don̢۪t mess the church of God. Remember, if we are a believer we are still one in Christ. So, love let us love one another though we go to different churches. The body of Christ (Christians) is like our human body, and we have different job to do for the well being of the body of Christ as we are. Therefore, let us exercise our own talents and gifts for Jesus rather than complaining and talking against each other.
Lastly, never serve for position and status, money, fame, popularity and personal gain as you involve in church ministry. But as a servant of God be humble and think highly of others than yourself. Love all people and live for Jesus. If we stop serving man and personal gain in ministry, everything will be alright in our community within a few years.
God bless you all
Lalpi
Dear Brothers in Christ,
ReplyDeleteTuni'n ngaidan isungkhomte uh manpha kasa mama hi.Naupangsia koima iumin kathei sih hi.Koiman kimudana in jong lasihvai? Ka puahnat sengman in genlou tantan ding jong genkha'n kakithei hi...nang ngaisiam uh kang ngen hi.
Tamna kang genbe nuam khat ahileh :
Leitung history a tamjote i et ngaisun chiang in politic leh religion pen apeikhom gige ahi chi muthei ahi.Leitung buaina atamjo khu sakhua(religion) jiah mah ahi.A player te khu Leng(king/authority)te a hi.Athuah gim leh a buaipen te mipite ( soceity)te ahi. Tutan a siisan-naisan, middle-east a aluanjiah religion jiah ma ahi.England history atamjo religion a buaina ahi eg-100 years war.America leh canada gampen religion buaina jiah a piangkha ahi sim ahi.Indian politics Hindu religion panglou in kisimthei kholou ahi hi.
Kagen nuampen ahileh,politic,religion, soceity chite 100% seperation aki bawl theilou ahi hi.A thuma johkhom ahijo hi. Tuahjiahin, Zou soeity maban ah hoiheh ichileh ipolitic leh ireligion uh munkhat,kengkhat a dinkhom dingdan ngaisun ding ahijo hi.
Tamte apan lemna (peace) foundation hing omtheipan ding ahijo hi. Atuomtuom a igengen/kagengen laisia kibuai deudeu dingin kamujo hi. History laibu ki gelh tutan kasimkhak jousia lah a politic leh religion complete seperation bawlthei authors om in kamunaisih hi.A omkhah a ahi a nathei uh leh ing hilh un kasim nuom hi.
Unau ngai um tah te leh Moderator pu.
ReplyDeleteIt's my very first letter that i share with every one here, after so much thoughts and observation of the various speculation put forth.
In all the opinions that pops up in regards to the Zo society; religious or society,i find, rather it is upsetting that we pull the past to the present and
have us bind to it so that it wraped us all. Leaving no space for any healthy and concrete conscience to nuture a vision.
This imagination leads me to asked rudely, are we despair? because there is lutheran in delhi. Are we to look back all the misfortune events of out pass
experience, come on? every one. I can run quite fast without facing my way in an open road without traffics,with my eyes wide open in the past, but surely
wouldn't i stumble every second in the reallife traffics and that would eventually deminish my existence in this world. I think we just did the last
part of the sentence.
I urge every one here to look forward as we run. never look back cos back then situation were different, as much as there's difference in geographical importance. we neednot mention any body's name to prove our stand point. Why should we prove a thing when it's not even the need of the hour. What power do we have to outlaw one and take in the others? More so do we really need laws to boost our unification if at all we are in one such process.
Guai, guai, what are we up to. I tell you, every one loves their own society pardon me it there's an exception. We should be talking to one another about the fate of our society or where we stand in five or ten years from now, instead of going back to 1999/2000 or for that matter Gandhi's era. Well i dont feel like
gooing back. I want to go look the future,my friends.
Lets us not be all fools and dumbs. You would be if you dont look the future. All other creatures man or animal are busy thinking as to what it would eat,
drink,sleep etc tomorrow except us. isn't it shameful.
I like to end by saying let us all join hands to march pass all this mesh, i'm sure God is with us no metter where we worship him. i belive unity amidst the
people of God and i believe we can do, there's nothing in this modern world as colonisation, or subpress or even enslave as long as we run pass every obstacles. We all are capable, able man and woman. As a Zou i do not fear, though evil can take over some time but u know i keep those as energy pills.
lastly its not for the pleasure of reading, but i meant it all.
here
lian.
Your brother in zou's name.
Dear Ken and all my Zou brothers,
ReplyDelete(This will be my last letter regarding MELC issue at Delhi, and I want you to examine your heart with God’s Word after you read my letter)
Thanks for the responds of my letter. Yes, I am sure, 100% sure that I will be going to heaven if lightning strikes me at this moment because I genuinely believe in Jesus Christ, the only Savior of the World. If you want to know why I said so, please read the Bible. Everything is written there. I believe the Bible is 100% infallible and inerrant. (If you are not sure of the place you will be going to after you die, I beseech you to believe in Jesus Christ and you will be saved).
True Christianity is neither determine by how much we work for MELC, Presbyterian, ZCBC, Catholic, nor by your education, skills, position and status in the community. Even the numbers of times we go to churches on Sundays do not determine true Christianity. But it is truly determine by your faith in Jesus Christ and your walk with Him. I wholeheartedly believe that our words and actions, attitudes and priority will be change if we truly have Jesus as our Lord (for the Bible tells us so). In fact, our attitudes in the issue of MELC at Delhi may be different if we truly deal as Jesus would do.
The problem with our community has been because of people who don’t truly believe in Jesus Christ and His Words in the Bible, yet show great interest in ministry or church administration. We think that we can serve God because we get our graduation in Shillong, Delhi, etc. or we determine church strength in terms of clans and number of people (our former leaders thought in that way). Remember, church is not Manlun’s or Tungnung’s, or your property, it is God’s church. Never politicize church or the wrath of God will be upon us. If you don’t believe in God and if you do not wanna live your life as it is written in the Bible, don’t even bother God’s church. Church has nothing to do with the words of Gandhi, Nehru, etc. Stop building God’s church with the words of non-believers. If you want to quote what Gandhi says you can form some social organization and use him to be the role model for your organization, but not with the church. Church belongs to Jesus and what the church needs is completely in the Bible. That’s it!
Therefore, I am not worry about MELC issue at Delhi. This is too worldly! But I am concern about our relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ. I believe that if all of us truly accept Jesus Christ as our personal Savior, and truly live for Him, our attitude towards others will definitely be change. Reading our letters, we all sound like non-believers, and our ignorance of the Bible and our harden hearts is evident in our letters. Where is our forgiving hearts as a Christian? Off course, I believe that when you become a Christian you have to have sound doctrine which is written in the Bible (which the Zou people needed most). I personally, will never be called a Lutheran because some of their doctrine is beyond what the Bible says, and I am against it. Saying this I don’t mean that Lutherans will not go to heaven because of some of their false teaching about the Bible. I believe that many people who belong to Lutheran and other denominations will go to heaven if they truly have faith in Jesus Christ. But I don’t have any comments for their rewards in heaven for their false teaching in the church. We all we face Jesus by what we do.
So, stop worrying about what people do and says before you take care of yourself with the Word of God. Don’t try to correct others before you correct yourself. Jesus told us not to hate brothers, but to love all, even our enemies. Let us stop following our former leaders who seek fame and popularity and who do not mind torturing and dividing people for their belly. Let us remember, one denomination among the Zou community is not the solution for our problem. It is our mentality, and our submissiveness to the Word of God that will revive our people. If you truly want unity, love God and live for Him. That’s the best way to unite.
I feel sad for people, who care so much about particular denomination, but have no concern for the church of Jesus Christ and never live the way Jesus said in the Bible. (In Lutheran Mr. A, Mr. B; In Presbyterian Mr. C, Mr. D; In Catholic Mr. E, Mr. F, In ZCBC Mr. Y, Mr. Z) It is not right that the Zou people form their own church without the knowledge of God. Our churches become place where we seek fame and popularity, leadership, selfish ambitions, etc. I encourage you all as a loving brothers, let us seek the face of our God once again…let us repent from our wicked ways…let us ask God’s forgiveness for our wicked leaders…let us humble our self before God. If we do this, God will restore us as a people and we will be healed. But if we don’t we are heading towards the worst. At this present moment all our people in MELC, Presbyterian, ZCBC, Catholic, etc., lives the same lifestyles. There’s no difference at all except the name of the churches we go to. As a younger generation, let us not follow the foot steps of our wicked leaders, but follow God way. AND WE WILL BE ALRIGHT!
This is the reason why my letter focuses with REDEMPTION and SALVATION because that’s the solution not only for the MELC issue at Delhi, but also for our people as a whole.
Thank you all.
God Bless
Lalpi
These is true and always will be true but the problem is did anyone know how to differentiates them? Atamjoten kikhen siamlou in tuami avele akibuaipi? Zou hausa(Chief) te kungah gentan guai?. ZYO, UZO, ZSP leh Hattuom te kibang sihma. Kengjong ginta ing, khen ding ma hi. Hinanleh, atamjoten ikhenthei uaima? . ZSP,ZYO,UZO,ZPC,LUTHEREN, BIBLE CHURCH.etc...tamteng a memberte akibang ahi jiah a isung kituahlouna piang akhula. Isrealte leh Palestine tenjong social leh religion khendan thei le uh buaina beita ven. I dont wanna see any sweet opinions, i wanna see a feasible, practical and factual arguments.
ReplyDeleteWe are one chichi vai in, Manipur election chiang ' we are one' ichithei uaima?. Ka khothei apat ka Pu Tungnung te leh ka Pu Manloon te omdan enta un?Election chiang bangdia 'we are one' chilou? Gensauda vang.
Christ Jesu a pumkhat sakhat...yes correct! 100% correct. A correct ban a soceity sung buaina hing tuntu pen avele kei buaipi. Even if its 100% correct doent mean its 100% good for zou soceity? A 'CORRECT' tengteng inam/ soceity a ding a a'GOOD' loule bang phatuomla? Lets take responsiblity and determine our own destiny,Jesus is too busy to solve zou's soceity problems , maybe. Zoute problems zoute ma'n apat ahiman in, zoute ma,n a solve thei ding ahibou hi. Ki ngaitua vai?
Thanks
kgl
Dear all,
ReplyDeleteAfter going through most of the writings, I would like to conclude that many have disagreed with the formation of the MELC in Delhi. But what to do now? The only way out would be not to lose the spirit as a community "ZOU".
Ken(qoob Tungnung), the answer to your question 'What stands for the letter Q which is between Politics and Religion?': Q stands for the quest for power and using the means of politics in the domain of religion.
all the best
Sian
UZO danbu thu ah neu khat kup ut nei ing e u le naute. Better Late than Never
ReplyDelete!!! So, here goes.......!!!!!
Amasa in, Milun Milal leh nam lamkaite zahtatna lian kang pe masa hi. Hu jou chiangin Moderatorte tungah hichibang ngaidan share thei na ding chance a
bolkhiat jiahin ama tungah kipahthu ka gen hi. Thu kigente thupi kasa in khantouna thupitah leh nam adia development nang ahi chi kathei a kipah huai kasa hi. Thuki gensa te'n a cover lou aom in kathei non sih a. Hilezong, point khat rather a question ???!!! that i keep asking myself is "What are our leaders thinking when they had drafted that amendment" ? Bang accomplished som mongmong ita di uai le ? Or Does the end always justify the means?!!!
In my humble opinion " Language can't really be your identity nor your name". Tam te ahileh paper- certificates, passport vel a na min mai mai, ut hun hun a khengthei ahi hi. Likewise language zong communication medium omna mun zila kizang meimei hin kagel hi. Language jiah a Zou hina define di hitalei, Manipur a omlou kolgam vaigam a nasemte 75% to 90% of the time -we are Hindus, Muslims, Punjabi's, English, Americans, Dutch, French, etc. So, to put it very bluntly, the moment you crossed your door you are an Englishman because:-
1). You speak the english language at work
2). 2). You are definitely following western culture in dress and the way you act.
This is seriously absurd and I personally can't see the road ahead for the above said amendment. The put it in black and white the idea of defining one's identity by what you speak or not speak is "Disturbing at Best".
For example, Benjamin ahilouleh Reuben, etc ha-le-suante Aizawl ahilouleh Lamka, Imphal, etc apan in Israel lam zuan vingveng omthei ta chilei dih thou na
va. Zionist Movement is by no stretch of imagination a Religious Pilgrimage.
Abraham/ Jacob te ha-le-suan unification ahi chilei zuau gen ihi diai ma ? Tami thudih ahi chin bible tham ngam zong iom maithei hi.Tambang a belief ziahin zong
thil aum ta a maban hun a zong hingum lai ngei va chin igen ngam uhi.Tambang thil om ahi tah leh, u-le-nau khulanga peite angol uhi, Zou ahinon sih u chi
igen phei suh gop thei di uai le ? For the simple reason that they have abandoned by CHOICE their language as well as their tradition for all Practical
purposes, including name. Dih kitlou zel ve ve maw ?
To quote a few lines for great leaders of the modern world "What we might have failed to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath our feet and that
the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long, no longer apply. The question we should be rather asking today is not whether we are small
or big, but whether our policies works, whether it helps families find stability, jobs at a decent wage, care they can afford, a retirement that is dignified. Where the answer is yes, we should move forward. Our fore fathers faced with perils that we can scarcely imagine, followed traditions to assure the rule of law and secure our rights within a democratic nation, traditions expanded by the blood of generations. It would be sacrosanct to undo their hardwork and sacrifice". I think it may apply to us all very neatly.
Moderator pu'n DNA thu agen neukhat belap ka ut hi. Tami danbu zuidi hitalei, maban kum bangzat ahiai chiangin DNA proper hing kinei taloudi, medical
identification inam sung a om thei lou di chilei kigenkhiel sih va.
Anthropologistte, Doctor leh Zougam Scientist te'n maban hun bangtan ahiai chiangin Proven record bangmah omthei talou di china ata diai le ? Dei in deisih
leizong na DNA khu zongbang a nanua a hingkiluai gige di hi chi mai vai e!!
UZO kichi khu conventional official Political party chidan in Mizoram, Meiteite lah a, Nagaland, Meghalaya, etc tou vel a regional party te aom dan in om le ahoi zo diai aw ? Chibang ngaisut thamching kasa hi.
I wouldn't be completely wrong to say this could be our undoing and disintegration for generations to come. "Yesterday I was Zomi/ Kuki, Today I'm Zou and Tomorrow………..!!!??? Let's save ourselves from ourselves.
And I truly believe that what's defining us is neither what we speak nor what we have as a name in papers but the personality, character, spirit and integrity
that's within us.
Genkhiel genval aom leh Ngaidam!!! Thank you and Adios!!!
qoob Tungnung Delli
i um um na chiet uah iipolpi te chiet uh phu di hitamai. Tun zong ZPCS ten Delhi ah kindeu in va phut uleh himai. bange nagen2 uh, khovel ah 100% kituoh chi um ngai nonlou ding. nam zong ngainat ngai lou sala...
ReplyDeleteThis so called SIAN is perhaps, the husband of Marygrace SiA-SIAN
ReplyDeleteI am so happy that there is one Zou Church in Delhi atlast in the form of DLC.
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